Comments on: Free speech in K-12 schools http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/ Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:30:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: me http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-5784 me Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:11:33 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-5784 this is going against the first amendment as the teacher has no right to see her journal and it is her right to write stuff as we do not know if she would have done it or if she just thought about it like i think about suicide but never come to do it this is going against the first amendment as the teacher has no right to see her journal and it is her right to write stuff as we do not know if she would have done it or if she just thought about it like i think about suicide but never come to do it

]]> By: brandon http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-4934 brandon Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:13:42 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-4934 i think rachel's teacher should be sent to jail because she does not have the right to confiscate and look through her notebook. Rachel should have won that case i think rachel’s teacher should be sent to jail because she does not have the right to confiscate and look through her notebook. Rachel should have won that case

]]> By: Randy http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-4916 Randy Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:48:00 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-4916 I think that it is fair that each individual has say in what he or she wants to say out loud...no one should be able to take that away from someone..thats how you express yourself. Thats what makes you an individual. I think that it is fair that each individual has say in what he or she wants to say out loud…no one should be able to take that away from someone..thats how you express yourself. Thats what makes you an individual.

]]> By: Brandon Horn http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-4759 Brandon Horn Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:34:08 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-4759 School personnel need to be able to quickly identify students for safety and other legitimate reasons. Individuals wearing hats and headbands are more difficult to quickly identify. A student wearing revealing clothing can be distracting to classmates. The rules your school has implemented serve legitimate educational purposes and are objectively phrased. If your school banned headbands with statements opposing the war in Iraq but allowed other headbands, you would have a significant claim that the rule violated your first amendment rights. Your school has a legitimate interest in providing an environment free of harassment and intimidation. The words you cite are frequently used in oral speech to insult and harass. If your school prohibited the use of such words in written speech, you may have a more substantial argument. Your right to freely express your ideas does not imply that you have a right to express those ideas in whatever time, place, and manner you would like. School personnel need to be able to quickly identify students for safety and other legitimate reasons. Individuals wearing hats and headbands are more difficult to quickly identify. A student wearing revealing clothing can be distracting to classmates. The rules your school has implemented serve legitimate educational purposes and are objectively phrased. If your school banned headbands with statements opposing the war in Iraq but allowed other headbands, you would have a significant claim that the rule violated your first amendment rights.

Your school has a legitimate interest in providing an environment free of harassment and intimidation. The words you cite are frequently used in oral speech to insult and harass. If your school prohibited the use of such words in written speech, you may have a more substantial argument.

Your right to freely express your ideas does not imply that you have a right to express those ideas in whatever time, place, and manner you would like.

]]> By: Hannah B. http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-4756 Hannah B. Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:37:26 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-4756 Freedom of Expression, Freedom of speech, both of these are very limited at my school. I'm writing an essay about how the rights of teens are limited.Everyone should have the right to say what they want as long as your not disturbing the educatuion of others. My school doesn't allow you to say words like Shut up, Crap, Mental, and Gay. I'd understand it if you were using them in a hurtful way, but otherwise these words should be acceptable. As for freedom of expression, my school doesn't allow you to express yourself through clothing. We don't have uniforms but we aren't allowed to wear Hats, Headbands, All skirts have to end less then 2 inches from your knee, Our shirt sleeves must be at least 2 inches thick and for guys they have to cover the whole shoulder. If someone can tell me more about the 1st admendment please comment. Freedom of Expression, Freedom of speech, both of these are very limited at my school. I’m writing an essay about how the rights of teens are limited.Everyone should have the right to say what they want as long as your not disturbing the educatuion of others. My school doesn’t allow you to say words like Shut up, Crap, Mental, and Gay. I’d understand it if you were using them in a hurtful way, but otherwise these words should be acceptable. As for freedom of expression, my school doesn’t allow you to express yourself through clothing. We don’t have uniforms but we aren’t allowed to wear Hats, Headbands, All skirts have to end less then 2 inches from your knee, Our shirt sleeves must be at least 2 inches thick and for guys they have to cover the whole shoulder. If someone can tell me more about the 1st admendment please comment.

]]> By: becca http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-4323 becca Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:50:01 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-4323 i'm doing a mock trial in school my side is to restrict the freedom of speech laws in school. I say that it should only be to an extent, like, no cussing, no profanity, it's a little immature unless you seriously use these words for their true meanings in a speech or paper. not to mock someone or use in a daily speech because you've grown acustom to it You need to respect the teachers, faculty, and students. Like in any of the cases, it was ok to extent, but it really wasn't all that respectful was it? i’m doing a mock trial in school my side is to restrict the freedom of speech laws in school. I say that it should only be to an extent, like, no cussing, no profanity, it’s a little immature unless you seriously use these words for their true meanings in a speech or paper. not to mock someone or use in a daily speech because you’ve grown acustom to it You need to respect the teachers, faculty, and students. Like in any of the cases, it was ok to extent, but it really wasn’t all that respectful was it?

]]> By: Brandon Horn http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-1103 Brandon Horn Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:36:35 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-1103 I strongly support the rights of students to freely express themselves; however, I agree with the Supreme Court's ruling against Frederick. I feel that Frederick has a right to present a position supporting the use of drugs. All laws are, and must forever remain, legitimate topics of debate. It is the time, place, and manner of Frederick's speech with which I take issue. The school brought students to the event as part of the school's educational mission. Frederick knew that his peers would be present at the event and displayed a message arguably targeted at his peers. There is little evidence to suggest that Frederick was even presenting a position and not merely attempting to cause a disruption. I strongly support the rights of students to freely express themselves; however, I agree with the Supreme Court’s ruling against Frederick. I feel that Frederick has a right to present a position supporting the use of drugs. All laws are, and must forever remain, legitimate topics of debate.

It is the time, place, and manner of Frederick’s speech with which I take issue. The school brought students to the event as part of the school’s educational mission. Frederick knew that his peers would be present at the event and displayed a message arguably targeted at his peers. There is little evidence to suggest that Frederick was even presenting a position and not merely attempting to cause a disruption.

]]> By: Shilo http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-1099 Shilo Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:01:37 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-1099 I am doing a school project on this and we're pretending to do a court case on this. I think it is very interesting and I was assigned on the side where all students should not be suspended for the fredrick vs morse case. This WAS their first admendment rights and I think the principal had no right to suspend them... since it was of school grounds. I am doing a school project on this and we’re pretending to do a court case on this. I think it is very interesting and I was assigned on the side where all students should not be suspended for the fredrick vs morse case. This WAS their first admendment rights and I think the principal had no right to suspend them… since it was of school grounds.

]]> By: Dmitry http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Dmitry Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:01:10 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-16 Who decides what is or isn't "disruptive"? Seems pretty subjective. Who decides what is or isn’t “disruptive”? Seems pretty subjective.

]]> By: Brandon Horn http://mrhorn.com/wp/posts/free-speech-at-school/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Brandon Horn Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:45:28 +0000 https://mrhorn.com/wp/?p=183#comment-10 The New Jersey State Constitution guarantees children a free, thorough, and efficient public education. Other state constitutions contain similar guarantees. If a student's behavior disrupts the education of other students, the other students' rights are being infringed. Courts regularly balance an individual's rights against the rights of others. The right to be free from harm is only one of many. Also, I know of no right that permits an individual to infringe on the safety of another, regardless of the setting. References http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/lawsconstitution/constitution.asp The New Jersey State Constitution guarantees children a free, thorough, and efficient public education. Other state constitutions contain similar guarantees. If a student’s behavior disrupts the education of other students, the other students’ rights are being infringed.

Courts regularly balance an individual’s rights against the rights of others. The right to be free from harm is only one of many. Also, I know of no right that permits an individual to infringe on the safety of another, regardless of the setting.

References
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/lawsconstitution/constitution.asp

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